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THE
TRAVELING TERABYTE PROJECT
THE
STORY OF HOW IT ALL BEGAN
The
following is a selected overview and summary of the original
conversation thread on the DefCon Forums that started the
Traveling Terabtye Project
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Deviant
Ollam
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so,
as some may recall i had a pretty awful system failure
on one of my boxes recently. a RAID array went down
and i lost 700+ GB of data. (for those who are curious
about how my RAID5 array could have taken such a tremendous
shit, i've looked through some log files and it seems
that one of the six disks experienced a circuitry
failure which was followed by another drive
being hit by a mechanical failure later in the day.
my best guess is that the drive with bad circuitry
kept appearing/disappearing causing my controller,
which supports hot swap, to constantly rebuild and
resync the array. the drive which was on shaky legs
mechanically just couldn't keep up and eventually
had a heart attack)
however, the process of recovering from this mess
has filled me with a certain joy and gratitude that
cannot be properly placed into words. i am so overwhelmingly
pleased at being a part of this community... its values
of preparedness and taking pride in setting something
up right led to my having significant backups which
most users wouldn't normally have (i probably restored
more than 80% of what was lost from backup copies
in-house) but, even more than that, i was blown away
by the immediate offers of support and FTP/SSH access
to others' boxes where i might find copies of files
lost from my personal music and video collection.
it is with this admiration and gratitude that i am
embarking on a rather large project of data sharing
geared towards helping others enjoy and share content
in the ways that got my file server back on its feet
so quickly.
a client client of mine wanted a new data storage
system. when ordering disks i took note of the fact
that i was purchasing so many from the vendor that
i was getting a discount. so, i chose to tack an additional
two drives on the invoice out of pocket. since these
were 500 Gigabyte drives, that's a hell of a lot of
space that i'm going to have at my disposal. what
i plan to do is gather up as much content as i can
-- both from my huge archive and from offerings by
friends -- and send it around on a journey to those
in the community who are away from their homes and/or
out of touch with their usual conduits of content.
The DefCon people are doing a great job getting old
talks and videos online, the shmoocon content is out
there, there are remarkable new tools like Rainbow
Tables and the WPA variant known as coWPAtty... but
so many of these terrific things are just not accessible
to some people since they're without the resources
to obtain them. The traveling Terabyte Project could
change all that.
at first, i plan to gear the process towards getting
the traveling drives out to people who are in the
service or otherwise deployed away from home without
any choice in the matter. i know that ASTCell and
ThePrez are both unlikely attendees this year since
they are on active duty right now. Virosa will not
be able to make it to las vegas since he will be visiting
his brother who is deployed in the mideast. Panthera,
while not serving in uniform, is also assigned to
the sandbox at present and not able to come to DC14.
this is a project whereby these great guys, and any
others who are in similar situations, can hopefully
remain as connected to the community as possible.
in the coming few weeks while i get things started,
those who are likely recipients of the TTB drives
should feel free to PM or email me with requests for
anything specific that they would hope to see on the
drives. i'll pull any strings i can (or just push
loads of packets across my cable modem) to see that
the drives have what you may be craving.
on another note (and someone like Jur1st should correct
me if i'm wrong here) this is 100% legal, i believe
(since i don't want to be thought of as breaking the
forum rule "do not use the forums to publicly
discuss lawbreaking")... no different from a
group of friends borrowing each others VHS tapes or
CDs for the weekend.
more news will come as things get underway. For now...
i'd love suggestions and input. should the drives
be just bare IDE drives and stuck in recipients' boxes?
should i stick them in enclosures? what kind? USB2
or FireWire? (go for speed or maximum potential compatibility?)
if anyone wants to recommend a particularly affordable
but reliable enclosure, i'm all ears.
those whose names i mentioned first will be at the
top of this list, but i'd like to keep the project
going to as many of our community as possible. please
let me know of anyone else who won't be able to join
us in vegas this year and we'll see what we can do
when it comes to bringing a little piece of DefCon
to them instead.
__________________
"Don't talk about politics
or religion." This is all the equivalent of
enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line.
"Lay down, GI! Lay down, GI!" We saw it
all through the 20th century... and now in the 21st
century it's time to stand up and realize that we
should not allow ourselves to be crammed into this
rat maze. We should not submit to dehumanization.
I don't know about you, but I'm concerned about
what's happening in this world.
- Alex Jones
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I
happen to think that this is an awesome idea. Having
several friends (albeit not techy at all) stationed
in the sandbox, a method of getting info and archives
to them will be, I'm sure, appreciated.
Some ideas for stuff on the drive:
The DCMC filler from DC13. Stuff like that is sure
to bring smiles to the soldiers faces.
ISO's. Linux distros, useful programs, etc.
Movies, music, games. All of which attained legally
of course.
As far as the drives go, I think that having them
in usb2 or firewire enclosures would be best. Safest
for the drives too, with the shock/impact resistance
they would provide and keeping them clean.
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Of course its fully cooked... we
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I
would double check with the rules for sending stuff
to personnel deployed overseas. They usually have
to respect local culture and I think some the content
of DCTV could be considered *AHEM* indecent. Some
people might have to wait till they returned from
overseas.
That said, I think that receiving a care package with
a terabyte of fun stuff would be one helluva thing
to get and copy what's of interest (upcoming WPA table
release distribution problems not withstanding).
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Originally Posted by Deviant Ollam
... <snip>
more news will come as things get underway.
For now... i'd love suggestions and input.
Should the drives be just bare IDE drives
and stuck in recipients' boxes? should i
stick them in enclosures? what kind? USB2
or FireWire? (go for speed or maximum potential
compatibility?) if anyone wants to recommend
a particularly affordable but reliable enclosure,
i'm all ears.
... <snip>
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Great
idea, Deviant.
I'd highly recommend a Pelican
case. My experience with these cases goes back
over 20 years, and in all that time I've never had
one fail. I've used them for SCUBA gear, firearms,
camera/video gear, and most recently, computer hardware.
They are damned near impossible to break, are shippable,
lockable, watertight and buoyant. The interior foam
is easily shaped to fit whatever equipment is going
to be carried. You can find them in sports stores
(SCUBA & canoeing/kayaking stores especially)
and camera stores.
My suggestion for HDs is for USB 2.0 drives. They
can be used almost universally, whether by someone
with a desktop, laptop, or some other setup. Bare
IDE HDs would be useless to someone with a laptop,
and Firewire isn't quite as ubiquitous as USB. I use
and like the Maxtor
OneTouch II USB drives. The have sturdy aluminum
cases and support USB 2.0 and 1.1. Some models have
Firewire in addition to the USB. These drives also
use work well with the Linksys
NLSU. You may recall I had an NLSU and a OneTouch
at shmoocon, and was using it to distribute the WPA
tables. That equipment was transported to and from
shmoocon in a Pelican
1200 case.
During a recent trip, I had a concern about disaster
backups in case my place suffered some catastrophe
when I was an ocean away. My solution was to transport
two 200GB OneTouch II drives drives in a Pelican 1200
case offsite to a location 300 miles from home. The
1200 case carried the two HDs, power supplies and
USB cables quite comfortably.
__________________
Thorn
Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill.
- Greek Proverb
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Originally Posted by Thorn
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yes,
everyone whom i know mentions them as superior to
anything else out there. i had no idea the smaller
ones were so reasonable. The 1120 you linked to is
only about $30! too bad their rifle cases are $300.
(although it appears one can buy them for under $200
through third party vendors)
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Originally Posted by Thorn
USB
2.0 drives. They can be used almost universally,
whether by someone with a desktop, laptop,
or some other setup. Bare IDE HDs would
be useless to someone with a laptop, and
Firewire isn't quite as ubiquitous as USB.
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yeah,
i can see how USB is the best option there. if i can
find affordable enclosures which support both
USB and FireWire that would be pretty great.
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Originally Posted by Thorn
You
may recall I had an NLSU and a OneTouch
at shmoocon, and was using it to distribute
the WPA tables. That equipment was transported
to and from shmoocon in a Pelican
1200 case.
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Yeah,
that was a nice setup. The NLSU is a pretty spiffy
unit. put that together with a small access point
and one has the makings for a pretty sweet "now
you see it, now you don't" sort of distribution
tool for illicit content if governments ever start
outlawing specific material. imagine... just pushing
a baby stroller around a city park, while all the
people in the area feverishly download subversive
music, uncensored documentary films, and MP3s of speeches
by jailed activists.
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Originally Posted by Thorn
My
solution was to transport two 200GB OneTouch
II drives drives in a Pelican 1200 case
offsite to a location 300 miles from home.
The 1200 case carried the two HDs, power
supplies and USB cables quite comfortably.
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smart
move. i've done similar things in the past, but never
with such solid planning. My measures are pretty half-assed
compared to yours, actually.
now the question becomes... what about filesystems?
i believe that drives this large are incapable of
being formatted with anything FAT-based. we could
use NTFS... Mac and *NIX boxes have pretty decent
support for NTFS. This is a bit of a one-way street,
however, since win32 systems don't tend to have naitive
support for other filesystems. are there any other
options that work better for cross-system disk drive
support?
__________________
"Don't talk about politics
or religion." This is all the equivalent of
enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line.
"Lay down, GI! Lay down, GI!" We saw it
all through the 20th century... and now in the 21st
century it's time to stand up and realize that we
should not allow ourselves to be crammed into this
rat maze. We should not submit to dehumanization.
I don't know about you, but I'm concerned about
what's happening in this world.
- Alex Jones
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Originally Posted by Deviant Ollam
yeah,
that was a nice setup. The NLSU is a pretty
spiffy unit. Put that together with a small
access point and one has the makings for
a pretty sweet "now you see it, now
you don't" sort of distribution tool
for illicit content if governments ever
start outlawing specific material. Imagine
just pushing a baby stroller around a city
park, while all the people in the area feverishly
download subversive music, uncensored documentary
films, and MP3s of speeches by jailed activists.
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Similar
systems have been discussed, but now it's getting
to the point where such covert distribution setups
can almost be plug and play. Add car battery and an
inverter, and you could be up and running inside of
a hour.
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Originally Posted by Deviant Ollam
smart
move. I've done similar things in the past,
but never with such solid planning. My measures
are pretty half-assed compared to yours,
actually.
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It
wasn't so much "solid planning", as it was
panic at the thought of losing my client files. That,
and I had all the materials on hand.
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Originally Posted by Deviant Ollam
now
the question becomes... what about filesystems?
i believe that drives this large are incapable
of being formatted with anything FAT-based.
We could use NTFS... Mac and *NIX boxes
have pretty decent support for NTFS. This
is a bit of a one-way street, however, since
win32 systems don't tend to have naitive
support for other filesystems. Are there
any other options that work better for cross-system
disk drive support?
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Sure
you can go with NTFS as you described, or go with
EXT2. In the case of a Win32 user, they can mount
the EXT2 volumes using the Ext2
File System Driver for NT/2K/XP.
You could even format a small partition with NTFS,
include the driver and readme, as well as any other
Win32 utilities that strike you as being needed prior
to mounting the EXT2 volumes. That might give you
the best of both worlds.
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Thorn
Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill.
- Greek Proverb
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Originally Posted by Deviant
yeah,
that was a nice setup. The NLSU is a pretty
spiffy unit. Put that together with a small
access point and one has the makings for
a pretty sweet "now you see it, now
you don't" sort of distribution tool
for illicit content if governments ever
start outlawing specific material. Imagine
just pushing a baby stroller around a city
park, while all the people in the area feverishly
download subversive music, uncensored documentary
films, and MP3s of speeches by jailed activists.
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Damn,
you read my mind again. Stay tuned to my projects.
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Originally Posted by Thorn
Sure
you can go with NTFS as you described, or
go with EXT2. In the case of a Win32 user,
they can mount the EXT2 volumes using the
Ext2 File System Driver for NT/2K/XP.
You could even format a small partition
with NTFS, include the driver and readme,
as well as any other Win32 utilities that
strike you as being needed prior to mounting
the EXT2 volumes. That might give you the
best of both worlds.
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What
I might suggest is a small FAT partition on the drive
with win32 utilities for reading the larger EXT2 partition.
This way everything you need is right there and accessible.
Useful if it ends up in a place without a reliable
internet connection.
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Almost
everyone going to the sandbox took a laptop with them.
Now laptops take 110v or 220v, so there is no need for
a power transformer when traveling. But if this drive
you have takes 110v only, you may wish to include a
power converter as an option for the places that require
220v.
By the way, GREAT IDEA! See if you can record the sounds
too, that really adds depth.
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I
don't get to the forums nearly as much as I'd like,
but I agree with astcell that this is a great idea.
The potential for any type of computer gear to get
beat up over here is very likely. I'm surprised
my laptop is still functioning with all the sand,
dust and dirt in and on it. There is just no easy
way to keep your stuff clean.
You'd absolutely need something like Thorn suggested
as protection.
Also consider the heat. It's currently in the 110's
here in Baghdad in early June. You can expect that
to go even higher through July and August.
Finally let me say how cool it is that you guys
are going to such lengths to make us feel at home.
Shmoo this year was my first con. Last year and
now this year, my job will prevent me from getting
to DC. I was just getting really comfortable meeting
everyone and now of course I'm playing in the sand
with the Army. You guys are too awesome. It's a
long ways off but I can't wait to come home and
drink heavily with you all. ;-)
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At
last Defcon I told Renderman I was being mobilized
and he offered me sanctuary in Canada. Interesting,
because I was born there.
You are right prez98, the way these folks think of
us is just incredibly awesome. It would be so easy
for us to just miss out and no one notice our absence.
But that's not the kind of people we have here. I'm
proud as a father.
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Originally Posted by astcell
At
last Defcon I told Renderman I was being
mobilized and he offered me sanctuary in
Canada. Interesting, because I was born
there.
You are right prez98, the way these folks
think of us is just incredibly awesome.
It would be so easy for us to just miss
out and no one notice our absence. But that's
not the kind of people we have here. I'm
proud as a father.
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Not
to get on a political tangent or anything, but the
offer stands and is extended to anyone in the forces
who needs 'sanctuary'.
That said, I still have respect for those serving
and their attention to duty. I may not agree with
what you are doing and why you are there, but that
does not mean I don't respect you as a person and
any hardships that might come with deployment.
Ok, that said, one further idea on the traveling
Terabyte (or should that be Terra Byte as it will
likely be making it's way around the world)
There are a ton of portable NAS boxes on the market
lately that handle automatic RAID, etc. If this thing
is going to be shipped all over hells creation it
might be sensible to make it a half terabyte and just
mirror it. That way if something happens and a drive
craters, it can be replaced,rebuilt and continue it's
journey without fear of data loss from shaved ape
shipping companies.
Edit: Have we got a headcount on who and how many
regulars are going to be deployed during con?
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updated
news - drives have arrived!
actually, they fucking arrived two goddamn weeks
ago but no one at the school told my IT dept. someone
at the front desk signed for them (a huge allotment
of 500 Giggers worth thousands) and left them in the
foyer. then someone else noticed them, realized they
were valuable and brought them right up to my office.
hah! what a foolish person you are if you thought
they did that. no, they noticed them, realized they
were valuable... and locked them in the office of
the headmaster's secretary without telling me.
It was only after a variety of phone calls to the
vendor and the school district offices who paid most
of the bill that someone got me a tracking number...
which revealed when they actually arrived and who
had signed for them. i spent the rest of yesterday
doing a sherlock holmes routine, tracking the clues
that led me to the package.
In any case, these
are the enclosures i'm thinking about getting. i would
ask if anyone has used them before, but this is a
type of peripheral where the market has little reputation
built up. all enclosures tend to be no-name brands
and the product offerings vary from month to month
it seems. still, i'm hoping for the best outcome.
What are the chances of Linux/Unix driver support?
that is my main concern. many of these units are supported
even if they don't advertise it... but i'd like more
assurances than i'm seeing.
next steps:
1. format with EXT file system
2. acquire pelican case
3. add all my content
4. send to eric michaud for some of his content
5. send to someone to add past defcon content
6. formulate list of recipients overseas
7. start shipping 'round the world
__________________
"Don't talk about politics
or religion." This is all the equivalent of
enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line.
"Lay down, GI! Lay down, GI!" We saw it
all through the 20th century... and now in the 21st
century it's time to stand up and realize that we
should not allow ourselves to be crammed into this
rat maze. We should not submit to dehumanization.
I don't know about you, but I'm concerned about
what's happening in this world.
- Alex Jones
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I
expect terabyte drives based on perpendicular recording
technology are less than a year away
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I
wouldn't even want to guess how long it would take
to get mail to this place!
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Originally Posted by Deviant Ollam
next steps:
1. format with EXT file system
2. acquire pelican case
3. add all my content
4. send to Eric michaud for some of his
content
5. send to someone to add past defcon content
6. formulate list of recipients overseas
7. start shipping 'round the world
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8.
Profit...!
9. Require recipients to apply a sticker to the pelican
case for where it's been
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Originally Posted by theprez98
I
wouldn't even want to guess how long it
would take to get mail to this place!
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I
can drop it off on my next trip...can we meet in Qatar?
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latest
update: pelican case and enclosures are ordered. i
was actually debating some other drive enclosures
in addition to the MPD model that i linked to. The
MPD is mostly plastic, but some others seemed to be
manufactured out of more rugged materials. one or
two competitors seemed to have slightly better cooling,
but i figure the embedded fans on the MPD should do
a good enough job. i may install some custom filters
to keep sand and other debris from fouling the innards
of the system in really harsh climates, however. All
in all, the ones i found at first had the best reported
support under *NIX environments (eventhough the vendor
doesn't list that specifically, certain reviewers
had mentioned good results in that area)
next question: the enclosure specs state a power input
of 100V-240V AC... does this make our electrical conversion
process easier for people overseas? what sort of adapter
/ voltage changer would be a good idea to include
in the TerraByte package?
__________________
"Don't talk about politics
or religion." This is all the equivalent of
enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line.
"Lay down, GI! Lay down, GI!" We saw it
all through the 20th century... and now in the 21st
century it's time to stand up and realize that we
should not allow ourselves to be crammed into this
rat maze. We should not submit to dehumanization.
I don't know about you, but I'm concerned about
what's happening in this world.
- Alex Jones
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The
voltage is fine, we just need to be sure that the plug
itself has the right shape. You can usually get a kit
for under ten bucks.
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Originally Posted by astcell
The
voltage is fine, we just need to be sure
that the plug itself has the right shape.
You can usually get a kit for under ten
bucks.
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Yeah,
Targus sells a international plug kit for computers.
It comes with power plugs to convert a standard US/Can
plug to wherever, and international phone plugs too.
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Thorn
Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill.
- Greek Proverb
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i'm
thinking about this
model by Targus. they offer a wide
array of converter solutions, but this little
"salt shaker" one (as I've taken to calling
it) seems to be the best mix of low cost and wide
nation/region support. (geez... look at that country
list on their details page. can't imagine us needing
more than that at the moment)
__________________
"Don't talk about politics
or religion." This is all the equivalent of
enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line.
"Lay down, GI! Lay down, GI!" We saw it
all through the 20th century... and now in the 21st
century it's time to stand up and realize that we
should not allow ourselves to be crammed into this
rat maze. We should not submit to dehumanization.
I don't know about you, but I'm concerned about
what's happening in this world.
- Alex Jones
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Originally Posted by astcell
I
can drop it off on my next trip...can we
meet in Qatar?
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That's
pretty much the default location for 4-day R&R.
Not sure when I'll be taking that, although the
end of the summer/beginning of the fall sounds about
right.
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Originally Posted by Deviant Ollam
i'm
thinking about this
model by Targus. They offer a wide
array of converter solutions, but this
little "salt shaker" one (as I've
taken to calling it) seems to be the best
mix of low cost and wide nation/region support.
(geez... look at that country list on their
details page. Can't imagine us needing more
than that at the moment)
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Looks
good to me. I know it'll work here. That is, WHEN
the power is actually working.
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Originally Posted by Deviant Ollam
i'm
thinking about this
model by Targus. They offer a wide
array of converter solutions, but this
little "salt shaker" one (as I've
taken to calling it) seems to be the best
mix of low cost and wide nation/region support.
(geez... look at that country list on their
details page. Can't imagine us needing more
than that at the moment)
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Specifically,
I was thinking of this
one (at the bottom of the page on your second
link.) It's the one I own, and it's served me well.
The "salt shaker" is really slick though.
That may go on my geek list, just because it is so
slick.
Deviant, when you get it whole TT Project completed,
are you going to host some pictures on your server?
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Thorn
Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill.
- Greek Proverb
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I
hope the case(s) are shock mounted and can do firewire
/ usb and take universal power input. That would be
sweet.
I've gotten into this thread late, but years ago there
was a FedEx club where to get in you had to donate
a drive. Then everyone rotated their drives around
in a big slow circle. It worked well I am told until
the net sped up, and people took other jobs. But the
idea is still solid.
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Originally Posted by astcell
I
can drop it off on my next trip...can we
meet in Qatar?
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I'd
like to offer my services as mule also.
I'm going to be in Eastern Turkey/Northern Syria next
month. If anyone can benefit from me bringing a unit
out that way, pipe up (or if you just want to send
out a prototype unit to see how foreign customs/desert
heat impact the system). I'd love to help out however
I can in spreading such a great idea. My itinerary
is flexible++.
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my side, they had decibels on theirs." -Isaac
Asimov
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Originally Posted by Dark Tangent
I
hope the case(s) are shock mounted and can
do firewire / usb and take universal power
input. That would be sweet.
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that's
all in the plans as of now. well, the hard drive cases
themselves don't utilize shock-absorbing technology,
but their main package of transport will be a pelican
case... that's about the best i can think of in terms
of protection against rough handling.
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Originally Posted by Dark Tangent
a
FedEx club where to get in you had to donate
a drive
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a
smart policy on their part. i can recall when a friend
of mine had a huge data loss (mostly his music collection)
so i copied all 100+ GB of my MP3s onto a drive (i
think it was a 160 Gigger) and offered to send it
his way, saying "much of whatever you lost could
be on there... grab whatever you're missing."
Well, he MSGed me about a week later saying how he'd
gotten back loads of his albums, then proceeded to
loose all contact with our group and ignore my occasional
messages about when the drive (which was only being
loaned) would make its way back to me. i tend to be
a pretty mellow cat, but that really aggravated me,
i have to admit. This must have been four years ago
or so, since the last time i saw him in person was
DefCon
9 (he's the dude passed out on the floor and poolside
grounds in a few of those photos) so 160 Gigs was
quite a sizeable drive. ah well, live and learn.
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Originally Posted by Thorn
Deviant,
when you get it whole TT Project completed,
are you going to host some pictures on your
server?
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i'm
thinking that i might register a whole domain for
the project and host information, photos, etc. about
it there. not only does that solve the problem of
my woeful upstream speed, it also allows for things
to be 100% anonymous (or at least gives me a semi-plausible
deniability of involvement) if it ever becomes large
enough to attract too much bad attention.
personally, i'd like to see the project grow to a
significant enough size that wider and wider circles
of our friends are able to avail themselves of this
service. eventually, if/when the terabyte begins to
travel to people whom we don't know personally there
should be a system in place that can provide some
protection against mistreatment and/or theft of the
drives. i'd like to see a system utilizing paypal
(or, preferably, some much better and reputable online
cash service since paypal sucks ass and will freeze/steal
people's funds at the drop of a hat) whereby some
party who wants the terabyte to come their way would
transfer ~$500 (or whatever the current market value
is for the drives, enclosures, case, etc) into the
TTB account, and would then get that money back in
full as soon as the next recipient acknowledged secure
receipt of the drives.
Well, i'm probably thinking of growth that would take
longer than evolution of the Internet speeds which
will make even terabyte sneakernet/fedexnet obsolete.
ah, what a fascinating modern age we live in.
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Originally Posted by Virosa
I'm
going to be in Eastern Turkey/Northern Syria
next month. If anyone can benefit from me
bringing a unit out that way, pipe up
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i'm
sure that there are those who could benefit... pretty
much anyone who's deployed and has a computer with
them. (heh, it would take practically a whole platoon
of guys -- all with laptops -- to generate enough
free space to copy most of this content.) In any case,
the TTB volumes will be coming your direction (we'll
coordinate schedules somehow) and you're free to get
them into the hands of whomever could enjoy what they
offer.
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I
suggest a quote for your project, to paraphrase Tannenbaum:
"Never Underestimate the throughput of International
mail passed from person to person by trains, planes
and Armored Troop Transports."
Andrew
Tannenbaum
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Originally Posted by Andrew Tannenbaum
Never
underestimate the bandwidth of a station
wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.
Andrew Tannenbaum
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1 TB = 1000 GB == 8000Gb == 8,000,000Mb == 8,000,000,000
kb
3 days of transport = 259200 seconds.
8,000,000,000 kb / 259200 seconds = 30,864 kbps ==
30Mbps
That is nearly T3 speed. :-)
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My
laptop is nearly full as it is, so I am planning
on grabbing an external USB hard drive eventually
so that I can at least get some content when and
if the drives make it this far (I sure hope so)!
I certainly wouldn't expect any problems traveling
through US military mail, at least nothing that
I can think of off the top of my head. Assuming
the customs declaration is (at least semi) accurate.
As for non-US mail and customs, I have no idea.
The major downside to all this is generally slow
travel. US mail to hubs like Balad and Baghdad is
pretty fast (generally, less than a week, even for
packages), but once you move out from there it can
really slow down.
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We
have folks going to Qatar on a regular basis. Just
gotta see if they are willing to have my carry-on
and not theirs.
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more to come
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